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Posted By Senator Elaine McCoy Oct 15 2008 09:11AM

    



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Posted On Oct 16 11:00AM   
Killer Bonsai

re: voting remotely.  Very interesting, however I think that the wounds from the US debacle in Florida are still hurting...it would be nice, but somewhat sad to think that may be the solution...studies are abound on the negative impact such conveniences are having on society and how the isolation of working from home, remote access, online everything is potentially eroding our ability communicate and contributing to violent behaviour and selfish attitudes.


Posted On Oct 16 10:17AM   
maitressedelouest

For me, the results (Harper minority government) are no surprise.  But what did surprise me, given the state of the economy and various other hot topics (environment -- pardon the terrible pun), was how low the voter turn out was again. 

I must live in a bubble: everyone I know voted. 

However, I did have to convince 2 people close to me that it was worth their while to vote.  Both are youngish women and they just felt it had nothing to do with them (that the politicians weren't speaking to their issues, and even if they were, could not be trusted in any case).  Sad!

What also surprised me somewhat -- though not as much as I'd like -- is how effective negative ads are, even in Canada.  Harper and his cronies learned this tactic from Bush et al. who used them v. successfully over the last 2 campaigns. 

Mostly, I'm disillusioned now by my fellow Canadians.   Not because they had different views then me (I'm no Harper fan), but that they didn't even bother to get out to vote.  I am SO not going to let anyone carp to me about the government or taxes or anything for the next few years, unless they tell me first that they bothered to get out and vote.

THOUGH part of me also thinks that if you can collect EI and pay your taxes remotely (by computer or telephone) and you can vote Canadian Idol, etc. by telephone, then MAYBE we need to make voting easier for people.  It is not an easy thing, for example, to juggle a young family and fit in the time to wait in lines to vote.  Or, if you do not drive or can't afford a car, to take a bus or long walk to vote.  Or if you are disabled and it may take you more effort to get out and get there and home, etc.

So maybe we need to change how we vote.  Why not telephone voting?  If I can pay my taxes and collect EI by computer or telephone (with relevent SIN numbers, etc.) why not vote this way?


Posted On Oct 15 02:56PM   
Killer Bonsai

Intreresting summary Rural!  I will be curious to see how this session of Parliament turns out.   Could be scrappy!


Posted On Oct 15 01:36PM   
Rural

 

Well what did we learn….
 
1)      22.4% of the eligible voters are brain dead (or misinformed) and voted for the author of the disfunctionality in parliament.
2)      Another 41% of the population don’t care or are too confused and disgusted to vote
3)      The taxpayers just paid for an unnecessary election that resulted in no major change in government.
4)      Some politicians will say anything to get reelected, others will say nothing and get reelected.
5)      You can buy votes, negative ad’s work, if you repeat something often enough some folks will believe anything.
6)      Honesty, integrity and openness will get you nowhere in politics, lying and cheating will keep you in power.
7)      Parliamentary and electoral rules are not worth the paper that they are written on, there are no penalties for breaking them.
8)      We desperately need some form of proportional voting system to better represent our wishes, but the Partys want all or nothing.
9)      A party dedicated to splitting the country up just saved the country from a near dictatorship, perhaps the BQ are not so wrong after all.
10)  Divide and conquer is not just a saying, the King has won this battle but the war will continue inside and outside OUR house.

I do wonder what the good senator thoughts are about Harpers comments during his first news conferance today where he made a point of saying that if new senators could not be elected he would appoint some who would not overule (his) parliments ajenda and that abolition was still an option!


Posted On Oct 15 10:56AM   
crownviccanada

Well, there it is. The real losers yesterday were the Liberals, they could not sell the green shift and Dion was weak for most of the campaign. One of the commentators said that Canadians got exactly what they wanted, Harper as PM but without a majority. I am always shocked to see Albertans voting in such overwhelming numbers for the Conservatives. Most Calgary MPs did not even bother to campaign in Alberta and won by at least 55%. Then Albertans wonder why they are taken for granted. There were a few silver linings last night. The NDP managed to pick up one seat in Alberta and Michel Fortier lost. One of the craziest facts I heard was that Maxime Bernier had the fourth largest margin of victory last night, explain that one away?


Posted On Oct 15 10:22AM   
PenGwen

Well...chin up and all that!  It is time to get rolling and govern.  I hope that the opposition can stand up to the bullying and that we get  some things accomplished!  i.e environment and ecomony.  Lets fight the good fight, and gain our strength so that we do not have face this again!


Posted On Oct 15 10:03AM   
Seebe

Boo hoo hoo!  I was so hoping that the Liberals would gain more seats.

I feel so...deflated!

Granola mom wanting to make the world a better place for her children.


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